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My parents arrived a few weeks later, and that was that.

More posts by Moderator. Is anyone besides me wonder why Bill Gothard doesn't get sent home for defrauding a young lady? Jim K. Plus there's no one with the authority to send him home! You hit the nail on the head.

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No matter where one goes in life it is important to ask "whose authority are they under"? If there is no one, then run away! Doug Phillips the same thing. Two of my old pastors submitted to no one and Gwry board were yes men. Never a good outcome.

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It was well-known that if you were a girl hoping to spend any amount of time at HQ, you had better be pretty or skilled; and if you were a guy you had better just do your job and avoid the ladies. Living there with a brother as I did offered Gwry conundrum for Bill, because if we walked with our brother or held hands with him, other students may misunderstand or feel defrauded.

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Nobody wanted to be that student. Kari, I remember you mentioning some of your concerns during your time at HQ. You did so very sparingly and cautiously Rfal as not to be asked to come home by your own father, as I recall. You needn't have worried.

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The LORD despises double standards of every kind. Gothard has been double standarding on so many things for so many years. He ruined Tony"s reputation. He is a deceiver and I am ashamed and still upset that my on pushed it on us and my exhusband believed everything hookline and sinker.

Yes, more than 5 mins talking to a young lady, you were deff in "danger zone". What struck me was all the bs about, "She's fragile". Uh-huh, you wish. I've concluded this must be something abusers tell [usually the person in question], in attempt to wear them down; a psychological manipulation Rezl cause the target to see themselves as weak Indiaha unable to fight back. I'm Real women sex chat in Gary Indiana you see this great manipulator, for what he is.

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What a very nice looking young man. No wonder Bill felt threatened! Anyone know whether the majority of young men shamed and sent home happened to be rather good looking? Oh, and the bit about muting the phone convos and asking you what he should say?